Got the Hotchkis sways on my box..........WOW these rock!!!!
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spring



Joined: 04 May 2008
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Posted: 7/13/08 12:27PM    Post subject: Got the Hotchkis sways on my box..........WOW these rock!!!!  

Took the plunge a few weeks ago and finally got these babies installed, and WOW what a difference. They completely change the ride of the box from an SUV to a pretty good handling car. Not in the league of an Impreza or anything, but still very well balanced handling in the twisties. The concept behind the balanced front and rear bars works without a doubt. The car seems so balanced now.

The front no longer digs in, and the rear doesn't float around like a fat chicks donkey.

Very highly recommended!!!!
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xseveredveganx



Joined: 15 Aug 2007
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Location: City of Salt, Utah

Posted: 7/13/08 5:32PM    Post subject:  

Yeah. I know... :lol:

The Hotchkis springs help, too.
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CIONIDE



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Posted: 7/13/08 10:54PM    Post subject:  

xseveredveganx wrote: The Hotchkis springs help, too.
He didn't want to drag butt, so he went with NF210's... neener, neener, neener. :P
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xseveredveganx



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Posted: 7/13/08 11:17PM    Post subject:  

CIONIDE wrote: xseveredveganx wrote: The Hotchkis springs help, too.
He didn't want to drag butt, so he went with NF210's... neener, neener, neener. :P

If ONLY my car would drag... I'd be done. I'd be happy. :D
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srb219



Joined: 02 Jul 2008
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Location: Cleveland, Ohio

Posted: 7/14/08 1:03AM    Post subject:  

i agree got mine installed 2 weeks ago. best money i have spent on my box. still looking for stiffer rear springs because i load her up heavy every day
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spring



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Posted: 7/14/08 3:21AM    Post subject:  

xseveredveganx wrote: CIONIDE wrote: xseveredveganx wrote: The Hotchkis springs help, too.
He didn't want to drag butt, so he went with NF210's... neener, neener, neener. :P

If ONLY my car would drag... I'd be done. I'd be happy. :D

Good luck scrapin my friend.

a buddy f mine just ruined his ride when he ran aground and put a hole in his engine block and tranny.

Totaled his beautiful ride. this guy was careful as can be tooo, but you can't see everything.
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AAG



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Location: Dallas, TX

Posted: 7/14/08 9:46AM    Post subject:  

spring are you still on the stock tires? That would also be a good area to do an upgrade.

I'm still on them and can't wait to get new wheels/tires.
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spring



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Posted: 7/14/08 1:57PM    Post subject:  

AAG wrote: spring are you still on the stock tires? That would also be a good area to do an upgrade.

I'm still on them and can't wait to get new wheels/tires.

Yeah still stuck on the stockies.

I want new shoes bad, i mean really bad. Its just that I switched jobs a couple months ago and my market is crazy slow. My sales are so bad right now, i have taken a $25,000 pay cut essentially. Which actually is not that bad compared to some other people I know. A friend of mine has gone from $156,000 to $6,000!!!!

Here's to hoping our economy picks up!!
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xseveredveganx



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Posted: 7/14/08 2:46PM    Post subject:  

spring wrote: xseveredveganx wrote: CIONIDE wrote: xseveredveganx wrote: The Hotchkis springs help, too.
He didn't want to drag butt, so he went with NF210's... neener, neener, neener. :P

If ONLY my car would drag... I'd be done. I'd be happy. :D

Good luck scrapin my friend.

a buddy f mine just ruined his ride when he ran aground and put a hole in his engine block and tranny.

Totaled his beautiful ride. this guy was careful as can be tooo, but you can't see everything.
Airbags and draggin isn't my first rodeo!

Been there, done that... Now I want it with my xB!
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SiZzOuRcE



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Posted: 7/14/08 4:58PM    Post subject:  

Did you do the install yourself?
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xseveredveganx



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Posted: 7/14/08 5:05PM    Post subject:  

SiZzOuRcE wrote: Did you do the install yourself?
The sway install's eeeeeasy.
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SiZzOuRcE



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Posted: 7/14/08 5:14PM    Post subject:  

Rear, yes. Front, no so much. At least on the tC's. If the fronts are easy for the boxes, then Im going to order them tonight.
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xseveredveganx



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Posted: 7/14/08 5:20PM    Post subject:  

It's easy. You don't have to pull a motor mount and all that like the tC. I promise! You just have to pull one of the bolts out from one of the lower control arm and loosen up the other.

Just make sure you install it with "Hotchkis" where you can read it... I installed mine upside down. FTL. Scratched it up a bit, but meh. I doubt I'll ever see it. :P
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SiZzOuRcE



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Posted: 7/14/08 5:22PM    Post subject:  

Really? The fronts are that easy? Are these adjustable?
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xseveredveganx



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Posted: 7/14/08 5:55PM    Post subject:  

Not adjustable. They physically attach like the tC's I think. There's the tab on the strut that has a link that goes to the sway. Of course, that must be removed and reinstalled. Also that need to removed and reinstaled are 8 bolts. There's 2 plates on the bottom of the car that hold the rubber sway bar bushings. You unbolt those along with the control arm, and the sway comes out. It's not hard at all.

IIRC it took me about 4 or 5 hours to do my springs and sways. In February in Utah. :lol: I highly recommend using an impact and a torque wrench.
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SiZzOuRcE



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Posted: 7/15/08 6:43AM    Post subject:  

I tried looking on Hotchkis to see if they had some instructions for it but they dont.

Does anyone have a scanner and the instructions they can upload?

Also, what is teh best price to buy these for. I am seriously interested now. Or should I wait for another company to come out with them.

Does anyone know our stock sway diametern for front and rear?
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spring



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Posted: 7/15/08 8:06AM    Post subject:  

SiZzOuRcE wrote: I tried looking on Hotchkis to see if they had some instructions for it but they dont.

Does anyone have a scanner and the instructions they can upload?

Also, what is teh best price to buy these for. I am seriously interested now. Or should I wait for another company to come out with them.

Does anyone know our stock sway diametern for front and rear?

I got mine from Lightningforce on ebay. Good deal, and fairly quick turnaround.
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SiZzOuRcE



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Posted: 7/15/08 9:01AM    Post subject:  

I can't seem to find them on ebay. Anywhere else?
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James_Bond



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Posted: 7/15/08 11:44AM    Post subject:  

SiZzOuRcE wrote: I can't seem to find them on ebay. Anywhere else?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Hotchkis-Sport-Sway-Bar-Set-for-2008-Scion-xB_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247QQcategoryZ33592QQihZ008QQitemZ180254894967QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V
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spring



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Posted: 7/15/08 1:58PM    Post subject:  

Or for a much better deal

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-Truck-Parts-Accessories__Hotchkis-Sway-Bars-2008-Toyota-Scion-Xb-22429-NEW_W0QQitemZ280242808879QQadnZCarQ20Q26Q20TruckQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQadiZ2865QQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p3756.m20.l1116
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