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silverevo05
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| Posted: 7/21/08 8:31PM Post subject: why rough? trd springs and monroe all around |
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I just finished installing the Monroe shocks and struts TRD springs, TRD sway Bar and End link Bushings. I ride on 16 inch rota grids and 205 50 16 bfg all around.
My question is that I assumed since I was using 16 inch rims and a limited drop by the trd's that the monroes would stay in theyre optimal operating zone, Thoguh the ride seems just as stiff as stock if not more.
Do I need different springs or something else? The TRD's give me the drop I want to avoid potholes and curbs so I dont really want to go any lower |
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burstaneurysm
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| Posted: 7/22/08 6:28AM Post subject: |
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| The TRD springs are notoriously stiff. |
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evosky
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| Posted: 7/22/08 3:13PM Post subject: |
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| ^^^ agreed. TRD are stiff for handling, so even with those monroes in, i bet you're feeling the springs before you get into that "cushion zone" of the monroes. |
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jct
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| Posted: 7/22/08 3:47PM Post subject: |
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| you should of gotten the tanabe NF210's way better then the trd's |
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DriverXa
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| Posted: 7/24/08 11:37AM Post subject: |
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| Should lookin into a set of eibachs. Progressive spring rate will give you the best of both worlds...smooth ride and excellenct cornering. |
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silverevo05
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| Posted: 7/25/08 5:59PM Post subject: |
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which springs will give me about the same drop of the trd with a better ride?
I love not having to worry about dips or curbs
PS i love the cornering though, what a difference |
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Big_Bird
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| Posted: 7/25/08 6:13PM Post subject: |
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| lowering any vehicle stiffens the ride, no matter what brand |
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silverevo05
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| Posted: 7/25/08 7:12PM Post subject: |
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thanks big bird but I was well informed that ANY aftermarket lowering spring will stiffen the ride.
my question was which springs will give me about the same drop without the stiff ride of the trds |
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Big_Bird
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| Posted: 7/25/08 7:39PM Post subject: |
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I have heard the h-techs still have a soft ride same with nf210's
And don't be a pompous a$$ when you come on a forum asking for advice |
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bB2NER
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| Posted: 7/27/08 12:26PM Post subject: |
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| duck_dodgers_24_5 wrote: you should of gotten the tanabe NF210's way better then the trd's Nah, that is more drop than he wants. Should have gotten the Tein H tech like I have. They work perfect with my monroes to soak up the bumps that the TRDs transfer to the riders. |
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Sciond
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| Posted: 7/27/08 4:11PM Post subject: |
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| but hardly any drop...his trd's give more of a drop |
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silverevo05
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| Posted: 7/27/08 5:31PM Post subject: |
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thanks
so either the eibach or tein h techs
i searched but there are so many posts, what drop do these offer F/R compared to the trd's
any place with good prices? |
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evosky
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| Posted: 7/27/08 5:39PM Post subject: |
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i have the tein htechs as well.
the drop after settling will be around 1.3" F/R while the TRD is supposedly around <1" after settling.
i got mine from jscspeed.com (have gotten other parts from them as well, reliable shop). |
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silverevo05
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| Posted: 7/27/08 6:08PM Post subject: |
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hey evosky do you have an evo as well? just curious since its in your name
anyways i dont scrape anything really with the trd's. do you?
and hows your handling?
thanks |
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vanlambert
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| Posted: 7/27/08 6:29PM Post subject: |
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| I have TRD springs and the stock KYB struts my car rides like fred flintstone's car!!!! Ive always hear the best struts for the TDR springs are the TRD struts they are valved to work with those springs. and they are not that much more than monroes. I got lucky I have a friend that works at toyota in the parts dept he gives me evrything at his cost he told me when im ready to replace my struts he'll give me the TRD's for $300 for all 4 . I heard the monroes run like $90 each. |
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evosky
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| Posted: 7/27/08 6:44PM Post subject: |
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silverevo05 wrote: hey evosky do you have an evo as well? just curious since its in your name
anyways i dont scrape anything really with the trd's. do you?
and hows your handling?
thanks
haha actually i dont. my SN is actually from my old one that i used to use everywhere: evoskyline. basically, the evo and the skyline are two of my favorite cars of all time. i would love to be able to own an evo9 MR someday ...
to answer your questions, i dont really scrape anything with the HTechs. if you're going up a steep driveway or have a loaded car, you'll probably scrape a TINY bit over those sharp bumps, but in everday driving, it's good to go.
with handling, it was definitely improved since you're lower to the ground. the softness of the HTechs actually compliment the ride better i think because even though they have a softer rating in the front than the stock springs, they still feel very planted and give good handling response. i have the following suspension parts:
Tein HTechs
OEM hotchkis front strut bar
cusco type II frame brace
progress rear sway
OEM 18" TRD's w/ pirelli pzero nero m+s
this combo is great, but i know i can improve it with upgraded bushings and some other bracing ...
oh i also drive without the spare tire. probably bad habit, but whatever.
if you have any tips/advice for buying an evo or the evo world in general, let me know!
hope that helps. |
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bB2NER
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| Posted: 7/27/08 7:54PM Post subject: |
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| Sciond wrote: but hardly any drop...his trd's give more of a drop Actual drop from my H techs was more like 1.25 F & R. I took measurements before and after to confirm. |
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Sciond
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| Posted: 7/27/08 8:03PM Post subject: |
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| hmm I thought you got less...at least my buddies did......He got about 1" maybe a hair more |
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bB2NER
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| Posted: 7/27/08 8:08PM Post subject: |
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| Originally yes but they settled fast. I can tell everytime I use my floor jack. It just about touches the sideskirt when I roll it underneath the same way it did with the Hotchkis springs that were 1.5 -1.6 drop. |
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