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sp2



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Posted: 9/15/08 11:35AM    Post subject:  

yea i think thats what my clicking is too
its not too loud but can hear when its really quiet
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coryjames



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Posted: 9/15/08 2:44PM    Post subject:  

only when at a dead stop or over a big bump with one tire thats why i think its the sway
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sp2



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Posted: 9/15/08 4:26PM    Post subject:  

yea at stop or going really slow with radio off i can hear it
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Lummox18



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Posted: 9/16/08 11:59AM    Post subject:  

NoLimitzInd wrote: you have to be smart enough to own coilovers. There is a bracket that comes with the kit. It mounts the brake line to the strut. It amazes me that people will knock the product before they admit they installed them wrong. Above posts installed them wrong and then figured it out.
there is a bracket that came with the kit that you attach the brake line to and then it attaches to the strut.

Nothing sucks more than installers that do trick work on custom cars, and can't even put shocks on a toaster! The guys that put coilovers, sway bars, strut tower braces, headers, intake, and exhaust on my xB are used to building show cars for SEMA. I'm not ready to give them up yet, but I plan to have a discussion with them about the brake line supports. They complained to me that there were no supports in the coilover kit, and that I would be hearing some banging during turning. That, and all of the hardware keeps coming loose. I'm going to have to dial everything in, and then locktite it all again, as things still sound loose. Any thoughts about that Jeremy? What are we doing wrong that everything comes loose???
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NoLimitzInd



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Posted: 9/17/08 12:02PM    Post subject:  

I do not understand how everything can be coming loose. I have had mine on there for almost 20,000 miles now and have never had to go in and tighten everything over and over. I have drove mine countless times to Las Vegas and CA.

If they did not know what the brackets where for then how are they are going to put them on? Im not knoocking your installers, but it seems like they didnt take the time to stop and look at it . The first time I did the K sports on my tC I was lost. I was in the same boat. I didnt understand how the brackets worked. Then I stopped and looked at it and figured out how to use them. It only takes a couple minutes once you understand it.
I would love to see how they adjusted everything. That has been my biggest complaint with people. They say they ride to soft or people have complained that they ride real stiff. But didnt realize that you do not use the actual spring to adjust the height. You use the bottom perch to adjust the height of the kit.

What exactly keeps coming loose on yours? I am really interested in this. For one I sell these kits. Two, I use them and would like to know what the issue you are having.
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Go_HIN



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Posted: 9/17/08 1:47PM    Post subject:  

any installer should be able to install a set of coilovers.... at the end of the day its not rocket science. If the brackets were in there it could of easily be lost in between some cardboard or wrapping and get thrown away w/ the garbage.... I wouldn't be so quick to knock the installer nor the manufacturer. I'm sure anybody that saw the brackets would know exactly what its for.

Could be any # of variables. In terms of things getting loose, that sounds odd to me. I'd look more into that. Physically it doesn't sound right and definitely not safe.

What exactly is coming loose? or does the car just 'feel' loose? Generally your hardware coming loose would have to be an installer error, its as easy as tightening up bolts and nuts. Be safe! look into that immediately, could save you alot of headaches later.
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Lummox18



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Posted: 9/17/08 1:54PM    Post subject:  

I bought this car to be my daily driver. I work 93 miles away from home. Between the commute, and how many hours I put in "on-call", I'm dying! Just gave notice at work, and should be free to deal with these K-Sport issues around 15 October when I'm free of this place.

Once I have the time, I'll did out the boxes from storage, and drag them down to the guys that did the work. We will search for the brake line mounting brackets, and determine just how the adjusted for the ride height. I can't do or say anything until then. I will share our experences then, and also share the outcome of the warranty matter from the blown shock. Stay tuned........

I firmly agree with you Jeremy, as I'm all about root cause analysis. I will not slam anybody or their product until all avenues of resolution are exhausted. Right now, the jury is still out............

Thank you very much for all your support Jeremy! No Limitz is where it's at!
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trd_matrix



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Posted: 9/18/08 3:26PM    Post subject:  

Wow this is getting out of hand.I dont think you should be smart enought to own coilover...I think that was directed at me, but is cool.I still thank you for your time and help you provided me with :lalala: .Problem is that ksport dont have clear intruction on how they really work, or how to install them. Mine came without no intructions.Kind of open the box and figure out how the hell they go.If you have to make so many adjustment and have 36 different setting then they need to supply better instructions.I built a matrix for show and ive done all the mods my self, from lambos to ragtop,ect.....I got teins for suspention and all i did was take out the oem and put the teins, bracket was there, didnt have to freaking invent one or customized it. Adjusted the height by lowering the spring height and finally fine tunning the ride with the soft and hard setting.I didnt even had to read the instruction.Ksport is the total oposite.You do the ride height adjustment from the bottom wich to me still dosen't make any sence but it works.Rides pretty good but my matrix ride alot better. :eyebrow:
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sp2



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Posted: 9/18/08 5:28PM    Post subject:  

its the type of coilovers u have on ur matrix are probably different then the ksports thats the reason adjustment is different
do your tein coils have the top pillow mount or use stock?
heres a clip from cusco of two different types of coilovers
http://www.cusco.co.jp/en/movie/how_to_choose_coilver_kit.html

imo ksports were easy to install
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trd_matrix



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Posted: 9/19/08 12:16AM    Post subject:  

That link explain it all.Two different types of coilover that adjust differently, thats why i was all confused. :doh:
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NoLimitzInd



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Posted: 9/19/08 6:30AM    Post subject:  

trd_matrix wrote: Wow this is getting out of hand.I dont think you should be smart enought to own coilover...I think that was directed at me, but is cool.I still thank you for your time and help you provided me with :lalala: .Problem is that ksport dont have clear intruction on how they really work, or how to install them. Mine came without no intructions.Kind of open the box and figure out how the hell they go.If you have to make so many adjustment and have 36 different setting then they need to supply better instructions.I built a matrix for show and ive done all the mods my self, from lambos to ragtop,ect.....I got teins for suspention and all i did was take out the oem and put the teins, bracket was there, didnt have to freaking invent one or customized it. Adjusted the height by lowering the spring height and finally fine tunning the ride with the soft and hard setting.I didnt even had to read the instruction.Ksport is the total oposite.You do the ride height adjustment from the bottom wich to me still dosen't make any sence but it works.Rides pretty good but my matrix ride alot better. :eyebrow:

It was not directed at you at all. It was directed at the people on here that come on and knock the products before they know how they work. If you want to take it as it was at you, then I guess that is the way it is. It is amazing at how many people come on this site with complaints about products and have no idea how they work or what they do. They just buy it, put it on and then complain. It goes all the way from a engine damper to a exhaust. People dont do any type of research at all before. You finally figured out your issue. But not after you came on here and said they where bad.

I work in a car audio manufacture also and see the same thing there daily. People do not understand what they bought and call me daily to complain about stuff. I just wish people would take a few minutes to do some research and understand what they bought before they knocked the products they bought.
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Go_HIN



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Posted: 9/19/08 7:51AM    Post subject:  

He could of easily gotten a bad set.... EVERY manufacturer goes thru it, no one has 100% quality assurance. Lets not totally label the guy an idiot just yet. It's not like Ksport has a great reputation or anything.... even if you adjusted it thru the spring perch it's not like thats going to make the coilover fall apart. At the end of the day any number of variables could play a factor.

I think anytime you're marketing a particular product at this price range you're going to have to expect more customers w/ less coilover experience. W/ The price range of these cars and its target demo I'm sure most of the owners aren't as experienced w/ suspension installs like a typical EVO, Supra, or BMW owner, even alot of 240 owners would say otherwise, you'd be very surprised. w/ that being said, there are certainly a # of people who are having issues so at the end of the day something should be addressed. I dont think Ksports interest is to call their customers idiots and tell them to research.... it is in their best interest to provide clearer instructions and expect these circumstances since they're pushing a product w/ one of the lowest price amongst its' competition to a car that is one of the lowest price of its class..... more people willl buy Ksports b/c of its price and w/ more people comes more variables for questions and complaints, its a good problem to have.... it means people are actually buying your product.

But the point is that the coilover is not perfect, nor is the Cusco set or any other brand, so alliances aside lets just give an honest shot to help the poor guy out w/ his problem.
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trd_matrix



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Posted: 9/19/08 12:25PM    Post subject:  

Well i got them fix and still think that they are the worst investment i have done so far.Ive put over 25 thousand into my matrix and out of that 25 best investment i have done was my suspention(TEINS).Bottom line, my xb is more like a daily car so im not investing alot into it ,but $920 is the worst investment i have done so far.The only reason you deffending the product is cause you sell them wich is fine, but seem like there a few people with similar isues.I wouldn't sit there and blame everyone who have a problem with them and classify them like the dont know anything(IDIOTS).Like i said before they should provide better instructions, you as a costumer shouldn't have to buy a product and have to do a million search or joing forum asking questionon how to install them.Like the some guy here mention even a few was that built cars for SEMA had issues.Thats the product and not the custumer if you ask me....You bite me ill bite you back mengggg..... :no:
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xseveredveganx



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Posted: 9/19/08 2:13PM    Post subject:  

trd_matrix wrote: Well i got them fix and still think that they are the worst investment i have done so far.Ive put over 25 thousand into my matrix and out of that 25 best investment i have done was my suspention(TEINS).Bottom line, my xb is more like a daily car so im not investing alot into it ,but $920 is the worst investment i have done so far.The only reason you deffending the product is cause you sell them wich is fine, but seem like there a few people with similar isues.I wouldn't sit there and blame everyone who have a problem with them and classify them like the dont know anything(IDIOTS).Like i said before they should provide better instructions, you as a costumer shouldn't have to buy a product and have to do a million search or joing forum asking questionon how to install them.Like the some guy here mention even a few was that built cars for SEMA had issues.Thats the product and not the custumer if you ask me....You bite me ill bite you back mengggg..... :no:
Trade for Hotchkis springs on OEM struts straightup?

:D
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CIONIDE



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Posted: 9/19/08 2:56PM    Post subject:  

xseveredveganx wrote: Trade for Hotchkis springs on OEM struts straightup?
Now there's a fellow ScionLifer offering a solution!
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coryjames



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Posted: 9/19/08 3:04PM    Post subject:  

xseveredveganx wrote: trd_matrix wrote: Well i got them fix and still think that they are the worst investment i have done so far.Ive put over 25 thousand into my matrix and out of that 25 best investment i have done was my suspention(TEINS).Bottom line, my xb is more like a daily car so im not investing alot into it ,but $920 is the worst investment i have done so far.The only reason you deffending the product is cause you sell them wich is fine, but seem like there a few people with similar isues.I wouldn't sit there and blame everyone who have a problem with them and classify them like the dont know anything(IDIOTS).Like i said before they should provide better instructions, you as a costumer shouldn't have to buy a product and have to do a million search or joing forum asking questionon how to install them.Like the some guy here mention even a few was that built cars for SEMA had issues.Thats the product and not the custumer if you ask me....You bite me ill bite you back mengggg..... :no:
Trade for Hotchkis springs on OEM struts straightup?

:D






what he is trying to say cam is no one was there to hold his hand and he had a total lack of knowing how to make things work so now he blames other people for his shortcomings???????
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trd_matrix



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Posted: 9/19/08 3:12PM    Post subject:  

Actually if i recall your mom was next to me holding something but not sure if it was my hand or not. :nails:
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coryjames



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Posted: 9/19/08 3:28PM    Post subject:  

did she give you her crabs?
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trd_matrix



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Posted: 9/19/08 4:18PM    Post subject:  

coryjames wrote: did she give you her crabs?
Wow good comeback :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Thats all you doing right now online tough guy... :blah: :blah: :blah:
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xseveredveganx



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Posted: 9/19/08 4:19PM    Post subject:  

trd_matrix wrote: coryjames wrote: did she give you her crabs?
Wow good comeback :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Thats all you doing right now online tough guy... :blah: :blah: :blah:

When in Rome...
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