scion xA/xB & Toyota Echo, same engine??
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Cinderblock



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Posted: 8/9/08 6:24AM    Post subject:  

hmm so if this motor has been altered by trd, and is turbod stock, then its probably much friendlier to boost no? better oiling capabilities, maybe no more offset crank etc.
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SimonTrent



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Posted: 8/9/08 8:12AM    Post subject:  

so what some of you have said, to avoid a problem with the cams, i should replace them??
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usc_ty



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Location: Bremerton, WA

Posted: 8/9/08 12:40PM    Post subject:  

man, i would love to drive one of those vitz trd turbos, it seems fun
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Noisetube



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Posted: 8/9/08 3:17PM    Post subject:  

SimonTrent wrote: so what some of you have said, to avoid a problem with the cams, i should replace them??

What I have said is that if it is moderate boost/HP (let's say 130-150whp), you're still on safe ground (that's relative off course : p ), you don't have to change anything. TRD didn't.

If you go higher (let's say 180+ WHP be prepared to start breaking stuff)

I don't know specifically about the cranks offset, if I find more info on it I'll share with you guys.

If you're planing on boosting your daily driver I would shoot for 140whp with the option of pushing 2-4 more psi with high octane ( a bit of Torco Accelerator maybe ) every now and then. I would say that's a nice safe* setup.

If you want to go for insane should-not-be-on an-echo-it-would-be-cheaper-to-get-another-car HP a lot of people are doing that too (I know I would love to :P )


Again.. the word "safe" is quite relative when boosting a stock engine. :silly:
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SimonTrent



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Posted: 8/11/08 7:22PM    Post subject:  

Noisetube wrote: SimonTrent wrote: so what some of you have said, to avoid a problem with the cams, i should replace them??

What I have said is that if it is moderate boost/HP (let's say 130-150whp), you're still on safe ground (that's relative off course : p ), you don't have to change anything. TRD didn't.

If you go higher (let's say 180+ WHP be prepared to start breaking stuff)

I don't know specifically about the cranks offset, if I find more info on it I'll share with you guys.

If you're planing on boosting your daily driver I would shoot for 140whp with the option of pushing 2-4 more psi with high octane ( a bit of Torco Accelerator maybe ) every now and then. I would say that's a nice safe* setup.

If you want to go for insane should-not-be-on an-echo-it-would-be-cheaper-to-get-another-car HP a lot of people are doing that too (I know I would love to :P )


Again.. the word "safe" is quite relative when boosting a stock engine. :silly:

all right, then can u show me any good kits that will do this, i am a welder, and can tig very well, so if there need to be any changes done to a kit i could do it easy. like someone said i should get a xB kit, but i don't know what one to get.
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draxcaliber



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Location: Maryland

Posted: 8/11/08 7:29PM    Post subject:  

Cinderblock wrote: if you open up the exhuast and run a good premium, it doesnt drop off it keeps pulling, ask me how i know, if i use cheap gas my AEM UEGO stops pulling at 12.9, good gas gets 12.5-4, and it keeps pulling. i have a question, our cranks are offset ya know, thats why they like to snap rods under boost, well, does the turbo vits from japan, even though its a 1nzfe, still have that offset? id really like to know!

that makes no sense, if your a/f ratio went down, that means it is running rich, and it would make less power and get fewer mpg.
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