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douglasinct
Joined: 02 Apr 2008
Posts: 83
Location: Housatonic River Delta
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| Posted: 8/29/08 10:30AM Post subject: Goodbye Mobil 1 "Synthetic"... HELLO ROYAL PURPLE |
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First I want to thank everyone here for helping me to understand why I had not been happy with Mobil 1 "Synthetic" for the past several years.
I KNEW something was not quite right, but could not put my finger on it.
Well, I made a change this past Wednesday.
I went to PEP BOYS and purchased Royal Purple SYNTHETIC (5W-30).
Man! What a difference!
- Not quite the same grand difference as when I changed to M1 over 25 years ago from Quaker State regular oil.
In this case, it was about a 50% amazement factor.:D
The engine IMMEDIATELY quieted down to a well oiled precision machine sound.
Initial driving shows a bit more "umph" going up steep hills.
- Not able to leap tall buildings in a single bound, though. :silly: |
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jurassic1
Joined: 04 Oct 2006
Posts: 1215
Location: Alhambra, CA
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| Posted: 8/29/08 10:37AM Post subject: |
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| Royal Purple, ftw! I just switched a few weeks ago. Lovin' it :love: (and my car loves it too!) |
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Ekolu2004
Joined: 15 Mar 2005
Posts: 200
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| Posted: 8/29/08 11:34AM Post subject: |
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| good choice i had friends rant and rave about m1 oil... and just asked them to try it... but hey i'm glad someone did... when i first bought my car i changed it to Royal Purple and didn't look back. |
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HeathenBrewing
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Posts: 2144
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| Posted: 8/29/08 11:57AM Post subject: |
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Hate to burst everones bubble, but you should look into the UOAs of RP in Gen 1 xB motors.
Generally, you get high levels of aluminum and iron (shows piston scuffing) and high levels of lead and copper (bearings) when running 5w30 RP in an xB. |
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IH8ONYU
Joined: 04 Feb 2006
Posts: 866
Location: Slimey Valley, SoCal
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| Posted: 8/29/08 3:11PM Post subject: |
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^-----Recomendations on a better quality synth that is in the same price range?
I like amsoil personaly.. |
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HeathenBrewing
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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| Posted: 8/29/08 3:34PM Post subject: |
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heathenbrewing wrote: ...... all the UOAs I have seen (Amsoil, RP, M1, QS, Castrol, Pennzoil, Elf, Valvoline, and a few other obscure brands I cant think of off the top of my head)....
Just to be totally clear, I am speaking ONLY of synthetics when I mentioned all those companies - I do not know what dino oil is best in our motors. |
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HeathenBrewing
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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| Posted: 8/29/08 3:44PM Post subject: |
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IH8ONYU wrote: ^-----Recomendations on a better quality synth that is in the same price range?
I like amsoil personaly..
Why do you like it?
Price range is a moot point IMO. I am only concerned with performance and protection qualities of an oil, not marketing hype, popularity or cost. UOAs are the only way to evaluate how well an oil performs, and all the UOAs I have seen (Amsoil, RP, M1, QS, Castrol, Pennzoil, Elf, Valvoline, and a few other obscure brands I cant think of off the top of my head) show Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 to be best in Gen 1 xb motors. PP can be found anytime for about $6/qt. Sometimes you can buy up to 6 quarts and send in for a mail-in rebate, bringing the cost down to $1.99/qt.
Remember, there is no correct answer to the question of what is the "best oil" - what works well in one type of motor can be poop in another. UOAs are the ONLY way to tell what your motor likes best. I have seen the reports with my own eyes and make my decisions on what oil to buy based strictly on the data UOAs provide. |
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HeathenBrewing
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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| Posted: 8/29/08 3:45PM Post subject: |
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| WTF? I dont know how I managed to switch posts like that, but Im sure most of you can figure out what Im trying to say... |
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duck_dodgers_24_5
Joined: 03 Jul 2004
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| Posted: 8/30/08 8:33AM Post subject: |
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| boy looks like i'll be trying Pennzoil Platinum on my next oil change but i'll keep using the K&N oil filter... |
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GammaTNT
Joined: 04 Feb 2005
Posts: 1195
Location: NJ
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| Posted: 8/30/08 9:52AM Post subject: |
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RP are expensive,
I am using Pennzoil Platinum now, they were "buy 1 get 1 free" So i have 2 cases of them .
I might switch back to RP after i am done with Pennzoil. |
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cvrefugee
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
Posts: 315
Location: Corona, CA
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| Posted: 8/31/08 4:49PM Post subject: |
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| $8/quart is too rich for my blood, especially for a $15K economy car. |
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Alchemist80
Joined: 15 Jul 2006
Posts: 318
Location: Arkansas
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| Posted: 8/31/08 5:19PM Post subject: |
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| been using PP for the last year in mine. After the first change I was amazed at how much crap it cleaned out. It ran so smooth and even had a slight mpg gain. I highly recommend it. |
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nauticac
Joined: 30 Nov 2006
Posts: 1141
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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| Posted: 8/31/08 5:29PM Post subject: |
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| I thought Scion recommended Mobil 1 synthetic in our cars? That's what I've always ran in my tC. Is M1 really that much worse than RP/Penzoil, etc.? |
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ShadowOnTheBayou
Joined: 29 Nov 2006
Posts: 186
Location: Southern Louisiana
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| Posted: 8/31/08 8:47PM Post subject: |
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cvrefugee wrote: $8/quart is too rich for my blood, especially for a $15K economy car.
+1
I'll stick with $20 worth of Mobile 1. |
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DOUGH_BOY_60
Joined: 07 Mar 2006
Posts: 272
Location: STRONG ISLAND, NY
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| Posted: 8/31/08 10:50PM Post subject: |
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| what about castrol syntec? |
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Kefferj
Joined: 22 Sep 2007
Posts: 99
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| Posted: 8/31/08 10:55PM Post subject: |
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has anyone tried quaker state q... I have heard some decent to good things about it, but I dont know how well i trust these source..
I use p p 5w-20(just switched) in my tc and it easily out performs mobil1(which i used for 8 months) |
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lazermike
Joined: 16 Dec 2007
Posts: 55
Location: South Eastern PA
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| Posted: 9/1/08 6:41PM Post subject: |
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| Ive been using Penzoil Platinum 5w-30 since I first changed the oil. That was 20k ago. My neighbor across the street is captain oil on some forums and message boards. After having some chats with him, and doing some research on my own, I came up with that as a plan. 19 bucks for a 5 quart container at wally world. Every 5th oil change is free. I was a Castrol guy for decades. Now Im hooked on group IV. And I change it out every 3500 or so. Ive been using purolator filters, but Im going with wix next time. |
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racerXa
Joined: 17 Dec 2004
Posts: 1483
Location: Azusa, CA
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| Posted: 9/4/08 2:29PM Post subject: |
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cvrefugee wrote: $8/quart is too rich for my blood, especially for a $15K economy car.
wow where are you guys buying royal purple thats expensive!! i pay $6/Qt. |
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SuperMario6582
Joined: 31 Jan 2005
Posts: 1858
Location: ~*SoCal 951/909*~
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| Posted: 9/8/08 8:26PM Post subject: |
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| was gonna try royal purple but my friend convinced me to try out eneos. gonna try it out this week. |
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Tannerb
Joined: 13 Sep 2008
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| Posted: 9/13/08 5:41PM Post subject: |
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| Not trying to be a pain but just wondering where you guys are getting the oil charts from. I am 18 and own an xb and would like to keep it running correct. Asidie from being this young I am also a toyota certified technician and also hold 6 ASE's. I do have some automotive knowledge but haven't gotten to see these charts and would like to help. If someone could send me a link for them I will gladly go through them and decide for all of us what seems to be best for our cars. I have went from regular toyota oil which is the same as penzoil to mobil one synthetic to castrol syntech and now to mobil ones fuel economy 0w30 oil and have been writing down and saving gas mileage numbers the whole time. The best I have seen was 41 mpg with mobil one 5w30 synthetic. I too am interested in trying a different oil so if any one has the charts it would be greatly appreciated. |
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