One of this weekend's projects.

ack154 · Posted: 9/3/08 4:21PM Post subject: One of this weekend's projects.

Say what you will about safety... I've made my decision and did quite a bit of research on it. Will be used ONLY for autox purposes. Will be installed to the rear upper seatbelt mount as per the Schroth instructions.

Schroth Rallye 3.

Oh, my other project for this weekend? Dezod rear endlinks.

CDogbert · Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1347 Location: POWAAAHH!!

ack154 wrote: Say what you will about safety... I've made my decision and did quite a bit of research on it.
What's that all about?

ack154 · Posted: 9/3/08 4:30PM Post subject: Re: One of this weekend's projects.

CDogbert wrote: ack154 wrote: Say what you will about safety... I've made my decision and did quite a bit of research on it.
What's that all about?
Many people are of the opinion that it's unsafe without a harness bar or cage (spinal pressure and such depending on mounting). And I understand all of what they're saying and take it all to heart... but I feel like Schroth knows what they're talking about and if they're instructions say it's OK the way I'm going to mount it, I'm good to go.

kanundrum · Joined: 07 Jun 2005 Posts: 3931 Location: Laurel,MD

If you can post a How to and how they work they would be awesome :clap: Let us know !

fujita_TC · Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Posts: 1545

this might a stupid idea but, im in the same situation too , not having a harness bar, but can i hook it up to the rear seatbelts but over the c pillar bar?like using the c pillar bar as the harness bar....but i dont think my harnesses are that long...

ack154 · Posted: 9/3/08 5:14PM Post subject:

Ya, I don't think the c pillar bar would work. Don't think it would be strong enough for it, really. But this particular one (3 mounting points) may mount into the same location as your c pillar bar. I'll know exactly for sure this weekend.

And yes, I think a how-to would be in order.

Hat_Trick_Hokie · Posted: 9/5/08 12:15PM Post subject:

I've always been a little leary of these setups... prove me wrong!! :clap:

ack154 · Posted: 9/5/08 1:28PM Post subject:

Hopefully doing this tomorrow... or Sunday if I don't find the time. Also have to get my endlinks on.

nebster · Joined: 08 Jan 2006 Posts: 7626 Location: team SOLO

i'm very very nervous for you.

BZinn1 · Joined: 23 Jun 2007 Posts: 4128 Location: Washington

Um where are you mounting the back strap to.......can you post up some photos.....remember be safe with life safety equipment.....install it correct and cut no corners........

I had a 76 Camero and flipped it a good 3 times and the only thing holding me in was the harness......my seat was ripped out the floor and held loosely by one bolt.......walked away unhurt........bad part was the cop at the intersection 100' away was tripping.......he never expected to see that......car was a total loss........went form 90-0 in under 4 seconds....yes I was young and an idiot.......never do that crap on the street.

CDogbert · Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1347 Location: POWAAAHH!!

nebster wrote: i'm very very nervous for you.
After doing some reading, this is my opinion, too. :pray:

ack154 · Posted: 9/5/08 4:21PM Post subject:

I understand you guys are nervous... but here's what's going on...

Schroth's own directions give the OK for the Rallye 3 to be mounted to the rear seatbelt point. I think they know what they're doing. I'm not breaking the 90 deg rule... or even close to it. This will only be used in autox. If you see a car roll or a bad accident in autox, you let me know.

I personally know many people who run these harnesses (without bars/roll cages) in autox and have for many, MANY years without any issue. Does that guarantee that there would never be an issue in my situation? No, not really... but it does make me a little more confident in my choice.

And obviously, pics/thoughts of install/fit will be posted and I will drive around for just a little bit with it on to see how it'll feel. If for some reason I feel at all unsafe in it, it will come out.

nebster · Joined: 08 Jan 2006 Posts: 7626 Location: team SOLO

yeah i feel ya but just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean it can't.

Either way i'm just nervous for you man, just want you to be safe.

CDogbert · Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1347 Location: POWAAAHH!!

Yeah, I know; nervous, but not yelling. You're only going to operate at half the speeds of road racing, so like you said, it's not that much of an issue.

Why not bolt it to the floor?

ack154 · Posted: 9/5/08 4:35PM Post subject:

CDogbert wrote: Yeah, I know; nervous, but not yelling. You're only going to operate at half the speeds of road racing, so like you said, it's not that much of an issue.

Why not bolt it to the floor?
If I got to the floor or the child seat mounts in the back, I'm going to break the 90 deg rule and have more potential for a spinal injury down the road. I've read that the wrong angle can pull down on your shoulders too much and potentially cause some issues. I don't know how much potential... but it's there.